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Date d'inscription : 24/12/2010

MessageSujet: A financial question   Ven 24 Déc - 18:44

Hi all,

my question is this : given what eric cantonna planned to do on dec. 7th 2010 (take all his "money" from "his bank account"), if this action was followd by, say 1000 fortunate people in belgium (say every guy's account s "balabnce" is 1 million euro ) how bad belgium economy (financally speakin') is gonna be and how bad the shape of the "euro zone" is gonna be regarding the "action" of those 1000 fortunate people

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Date d'inscription : 21/12/2010

MessageSujet: Re: A financial question   Mar 28 Déc - 4:59

Well, if you think about it, the economy of a whole Nation shouldn't be in hands of 1000 people. Every single person is owner of it's own money and should be able to do with it whatever that person wants.

Besides, I think that If a bank system is so weak that cannot stand up if the regular people takes out the money, there's definitively something wrong with it. Adding to that the Euro (the socialists dream) eventually is going to collapse and disappear, and not precisely because of 1000 suckers.

I believe "the problem" is: The banks are not gonna be making money out of us, and they'll have to do it out of the big magnates and corporations, and that will set us free from their corrupt system.

In that hypothetical case that a country goes to default just by 1000 people talking their money out, the people of that country should not blame on those 1000 people, but on the government who instead of trying to do something good for the citizens is making business with "banksters" following the Globalists agenda.

If so (the people finally wake up) they'll have to think a new society model that fits their needs to live decently based on the country's resources and the people.

I can't think about a better example than Argentina. A country that went to default, that owes LOTS of money, and in many opportunities refused to pay back an illegitimate debt to private banks... however is one of the few countries that survived and kept ongoing during the last recession. If in the utopical case they would become independent of the bankers capitalist system they would do just fine and many countries would follow their example.

Countries need to get back factories and production that globalism forced to move to China.
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MessageSujet: Re: A financial question   Mar 28 Déc - 21:33

I agree wit what you said kas617 110% !

And from your "analysis" I understand that we (western countries AND societies) have to develop our "own" production (manufacturing AND agriculture)
and do not care about what "advertisers" say about globalization and global economy.

Beside that "we" as a society and as individuals have to "count" on ourselves when it comes to, say basic stuff: as eating and food.

We have, in my opinion, to develop a "parallel" and legal agro-economy : by eating what we plant : potatos, tomatos, and so forth, and not only
vegetables, every-stuff that can be planted, I (we) have to plant it. So that, vegetables of summer-time will be our meals in summer, those of fall will be our meal in fall (natural meals if possible, with respect to nature and to people who are "sharing" with us stuff like : water, oxygen, forests and so forth)

I think we (I) have to rethink a bit and decide (with individual action) to leave a basic life (build our own "house") from wood and stuff in an area where we
respect the law (in building such a "house") and resopect nature by respecting natural water, fruits and vegetables and see that those stuff are
really what matters in our world and not black-berries, laptops, nintendo-dsi-xl, hd-tvs and so forth which are (those devices) FULLY (100%)
"depending" (when it comes to their functionning) depending on simply electricity. If, in any big city in the world, there is a shortage of electricity or say a
bl;ack-out, result : bye bye msn, hotmail and other google search engine and stuff...

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MessageSujet: Re: A financial question   Mer 29 Déc - 10:25

I think we share the same idea of "independence" but the problem is: How do we do that?

How do you make people from one Nation that they have to give up slave hand made luxury to start working and develop their own?

Let's face it, there's billions of sheeple (Sheep + people) in the world that they don't want to change, and instead they want to keep NOT THINKING for themselves and let the Elite decide for them.

I'm a member of a forum called 1984, and even though there the people call themselves "awake" when I started the Bank Run the 7th of December, almost all the user said that doing this is the "Ordo ab chao" (Order of chaos) and that is not going to work.

Well, first of all, I explained this idea of a new Nation based on agricultural economy, and liberation of the banking system, how weak the bank is without the regular people.
I thought they HAD to understand it, since we're Argentines, we lived this situation before in 2001, we saw how the politician fucked us to save their bank friends, and we saw what people can do when that crisis situation took place.
Most of the people around the world don't know about it (I believe there is only one Argentinian documentary called "Memorias del saqueo") but when our economy collapsed WE CREATED A NEW CURRENCY TO MAKE BUSINESS WITH OUR OWN PEOPLE. That currency was called "TRUEQUE" and we make it to start from scratch. We could sell and buy our goods and work, IT WAS REALLY WORKING.
You might ask yourself, "What happened then?" "Why are you back in the bankers mob circle?"

The Trueque was working perfectly. It started in some provinces and by the beginning of 2003 it was used Nation wide. The people that couldn't afford to pay goods at dollar price had the chance to buy them a new value, a standard basic value. The farmers started to manage that currency, and sold milk, veggies, meat to the people. The unemployed could work being their own boss. It was a fresh start from scratch.
However in Buenos Aires, the politicians wanted to get back to power and control, and what they do was simple and outrageous: They created and gave away FAKE TRUEQUES. By doing so they put more money that goods and business to back it up, so they DEVALUATED our new currency. An example: At the beginning 1 Kilo of sugar cost 1 Trueque, by the end of 2003 the same kilo of sugar cost 500 trueque.

DOES THAT RING A BELL TO YOU?

They did EXACTLY what the bankers do to control and systematically devaluate the currency, by creating money of NOWHERE!

By the end of 2003 buying goods with TRUEQUE was too expensive and we were pushed to go back to the Argentinian Peso.

My point is, even awake people do not want to give up the comfort of living as slaves. They know what can people do and how... but it's easier for them to believe that the next generation is gonna save the world.

I think we should do something about this. We should gather and think of a system that covers all necessities, get rid of bankers and start from SCRATCH. But we also have to educate the population. Awake people should help us or accept how comfortable they're with this enslavement system.

With this Bank Run last December we realized how pissed the people is with the banks, but we also could see how LOST and CLUELESS they are.

Maybe we should plan this covering all aspects, so next time, or the next one, or the next one we can really make a change.

I don't know, what do you think?

(Is this too overwhelming?)
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MessageSujet: Re: A financial question   Mer 29 Déc - 11:10

Hi kas617,

What you're saying is logical and seems working if applied correctly in a society (like a country for instance).
And this point of view is of a level that is not my "comfort-zone"

My point (my comfort zone in last post) is that : if we want changes (financially speaking), everyone (every individual) has to DECIDE and TAKE ACTION.

The action is (with regards to "the financial system" in any country) to keep our own (cash) money, far away from our bank-accounts. We have
to can, by doing this, manage it the way we want, and not, for instance, put it in a "growing-account-new-stuff" with the idea that (as "advertisers"
said to us) our $2 000 will be not less than $2 300 in one year, AND THAT just in 6 months we (I) lost everything because of "sudden-unknown-unspecified"
factors that shrinks my $2 000 to $0.00

I thing the option Geraldine gave is something (an action) I like :
Put my money inside a bag or something and put it in a safe spot in my back-yard

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MessageSujet: Re: A financial question   Mer 29 Déc - 16:10

At this moment I have no money to save, however everytime I get paid I withdraw all the money. If some day I have a surplus to save i'd probably buy gold or silver (non devaluable savings).

I agree that every single person MUST participate, but how do you do that?

Even the people who's aware of the bank scam refuses to participate.
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MessageSujet: Re: A financial question   Mer 29 Déc - 21:31

Hi,

What I do is, I follow and apply nike ad : "just do it !"

Have a good one

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